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Most worthless plot device
Tweet Topic Started: Apr 12 2015, 10:44 PM (1,111 Views)
+ Steve	Apr 12 2015, 10:44 PM Post #1
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	What would you say is the most worthless plot device in anime or manga, used by more than one series? If it's a spoiler contained within say what series so people know to avoid it as this is the anime section I would say above all else "character x has a random unexplained disease that weakens them or would kill them later on anyway" Typically thrust upon bad guys as a means to kill them or legitify their actions somewhat. Edited by Steve, Apr 12 2015, 10:45 PM.
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~~Professor Gohan~~	Apr 12 2015, 10:46 PM Post #2
Posts: 0 Group: GTFO Member #6,938 Joined: November 2, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Spoiler: click to toggle Talking about like Itachi?



FutureProtagonist	Apr 12 2015, 11:20 PM Post #3
Quwrof Wrlccywrlir Posts: 2,545 Group: Member Member #11,890 Joined: December 5, 2014 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Soul Eater	How about when a character reveals that they've been intimately involved with events that occurred before they were introduced or even conceived of (by the author). Spoiler: click to toggle Think Aizen and Madara. Edited by FutureProtagonist, Apr 12 2015, 11:21 PM.
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+ Steve	Apr 12 2015, 11:20 PM Post #4
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Professor Gohan Apr 12 2015, 10:46 PM Spoiler: click to toggle Talking about like Itachi? Spoiler: click to toggle Ya him and Sensui from YYH plus a few other characters I just think it's a really lame thing to throw in there, it's fine if it has some background like at least the disease having been mentioned in the series and then later on surprise this dude has it. I've never seen that approach. However it can also be bad if they start off with the disease but it juuust so happens to kill them in a climactic moment like the disease knew how to be dramatic or something
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Noir	Apr 15 2015, 05:22 PM Post #5
Posts: 2,503 Group: Member Member #5,496 Joined: December 12, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Cowboy Bebop, Gun X Sword, Trigun, Hellsing, Metropolis, Akira, GITS, Miyazaki	What about in the case of a character like As***aka? I think it's a good device if used properly.
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+ Ssj3vegito96	Apr 16 2015, 08:08 PM Post #6
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	FutureProtagonist Apr 12 2015, 11:20 PM How about when a character reveals that they've been intimately involved with events that occurred before they were introduced or even conceived of (by the author). Spoiler: click to toggle Think Aizen and Madara. Spoiler: click to toggle madara I can see being a massive a* pull but idk about aizen. I remember having a feeling that something was up that guy and big s* was about to happen Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Apr 16 2015, 08:10 PM.
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Accelerator	Apr 17 2015, 12:05 AM Post #7
最強の能力者 Posts: 7,505 Group: Super Moderator Member #7,059 Joined: December 12, 2011 Gender Female Country United States Favourite Anime Raildex/Monogatari, Mirai Nikki, Nanatsu no Taizai, Katanagatari, Clannad, Shigatsu, Angel Beats! What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Tokyo Ghoul, Nanatsu no Taizai, Joshiraku, Owari no Seraph, Railgun, Mangaka-san	Noir Apr 15 2015, 05:22 PM What about in the case of a character like As***aka? I think it's a good device if used properly. Yeah that's a great example of where it works.
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FutureProtagonist	Apr 17 2015, 01:36 AM Post #8
Quwrof Wrlccywrlir Posts: 2,545 Group: Member Member #11,890 Joined: December 5, 2014 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Soul Eater	Noir Apr 15 2015, 05:22 PM What about in the case of a character like As*aka? I think it's a good device if used properly. I don't think it quite counts as a device in that situation. If I recall, it was central to the plot, rather than thrown in for no real reason. Vegito Spoiler: click to toggle madara I can see being a massive a* pull but idk about aizen. I remember having a feeling that something was up that guy and big s* was about to happen Spoiler: click to toggle Initially Aizen was fine, (though his villain status was retconned) but his Fake Karakura Town Arc shenanigans were gratuitous and stupid. Edited by FutureProtagonist**, Apr 17 2015, 01:38 AM.
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+ QueenTD	Apr 17 2015, 01:44 AM Post #9
My Dear Melancholy, Posts: 4,480 Group: Elite Member Member #11,589 Joined: August 8, 2014 Gender Female Country United States	Spoiler: click to toggle Hey nothing is worthless! Dragonball is popular for it's plot devices like Zenkai, Hyperbolic Chamber, Dragonballs, and recently Whis Time Travel. Zenkai comes when the bad guys beat Saiyans up! Hyperbolic is just to train a year! Whis time warp is too replace the balls of Shenron!
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Noir	Apr 17 2015, 04:16 AM Post #10
Posts: 2,503 Group: Member Member #5,496 Joined: December 12, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Cowboy Bebop, Gun X Sword, Trigun, Hellsing, Metropolis, Akira, GITS, Miyazaki	FutureProtagonist Apr 17 2015, 01:36 AM Noir Apr 15 2015, 05:22 PM What about in the case of a character like As*aka? I think it's a good device if used properly. I don't think it quite counts as a device in that situation. If I recall, it was central to the plot, rather than thrown in for no real reason. A plot device is "anything that moves the plot forward". There isn't an inherent negative connotation to it Edited by Noir**, Apr 17 2015, 04:17 AM.
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+ Ssj3vegito96	Apr 17 2015, 06:43 PM Post #11
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	I'm fine with plot devices as long as they aren't complete a*** pulls. Like if we didn't know whis could rewind time and the first time we learn about it is at the end of the movie. That would be horrible Stuff like that bothers me
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Cal	Apr 30 2015, 07:53 AM Post #12
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TheACE	Jun 5 2015, 01:33 AM Post #13
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	Not a real spoiler. Anyone heard of Potara earrings? That's a pretty useless MacGuffin.
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*Copy_Ninja*	Jun 5 2015, 01:38 AM Post #14
*Novacane for the pain* Posts: 8,033 Group: Guardian Member #6,499 Joined: July 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Naruto, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Hunter x Hunter (2011) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Monster, One Piece, Naruto, Fullmetal Alchemist, Hunter X Hunter, Death Note, SnK	I don't understand how worthless is being used in this context. I'd have thought that it meant something added to the story that didn't actually change anything and didn't need to be there. A good example occurs late in Naruto light manga spoilers Hashirama gives Sasuke a jutsu of his and talks about how Sasuke looks similar to Madara's brother as if its important. Neither of these things are mentioned again even though Kishimoto specifically had a flashback just to show this conversation But some stuff like "character being involved in events they shouldn't have been" isn't worthless. Poorly executed yes but the reveal of those things almost always drives the plot forward in some way, which is what a plot device is supposed to do.
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lazerbem	Jun 5 2015, 03:39 AM Post #15
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Vegeta's character development being erased every time the story needs an issue. You need some sort of idiotic decision made? Just retcon Vegeta's development so he acts like an idiot once more and screw everyone over. He's the definition of a character plot device.
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